Although, I would point out that, while one can set up a communist or mutualist group within a system that recognizes property rights on everything – the reverse is not true.

That’s why I tell my anti-private-property friends that they’re free to do with their resources as they want but if they try to take my shit it’ll make for some unhappy times.

As do I. I can agree with this.

Although, I would point out that, while one can set up a communist or mutualist group within a system that recognizes property rights on everything – the reverse is not true. If property rights on all property – whether you make a computer, a house, or a factory line – are not recognized, capitalism cannot exist, and neither can truly voluntary interaction.

True, but the full idea of agorism always seems to include mutualist baggage that I don’t agree with.

I know many people try to tie specific ideologies to agorism but, ultimately, counter-economics is supposed to be the act of performing voluntary transactions with individuals and that means only the involved individuals have any say in how the transactions are performed.

Some people want to have small communistic groups, others mutualistic groups, others capitalistic groups, etc. Advocates of any economic system often attempt to tie their ideology to agorism, I prefer to divorce economic ideology from the act of counter-economics. Let the communists be communists, let the mutualists be mutualizes, and let the capitalist be capitalists so long as they’re not trying to use force to put their ideologies onto others. That’s the general attitude shared by the agorists I hang out with.

@Matt – That’s more or less what the idea behind agorism is. You simply start ignoring the state and living your life as you choose.